Teavana and Starbucks

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    • #8538
      MEversbergII
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      Some months ago I mentioned Starbucks had started opening Tazo stores, and I think I reported they had gone on to purchase Teavana as well.  Here’s an update:


      M.
    • #9553
      ICE
      Participant

      That’s just great. The McDonaldization of tea in full fletch. Feel so lucky to be on the other side of the planet.

    • #9857
      MEversbergII
      Participant

      I can’t claim I’m at Ground Zero (I’m actually surprised there’s only ONE Starbucks in the county!), but yeah, kind of wish I wasn’t near this.

      Then again, they’re targeting China more now.  China’s the #1 consumer market.  The U.S. has more or less become second fiddle.

      M.

    • #9113
      sofie1212
      Participant

      Starbucks and Pacific Coffee are the only two places where I can spend a little money and sit for as long as I want and try to be relaxed. I know their coffee and tea are not good, but there are no other facilities in the city like that. Hong Kong rent is too too too high!

    • #9849
      MEversbergII
      Participant

      I’d heard HK’s rent was bonkers.  I was never able to “relax” at Starbucks near here.  It was relatively small, and the outside seats filled up quick in good weather  (we don’t have a habit of table sharing in the U.S.) so when you sat inside you basically sat on top of the grinder.  Which was loud.  Everyone spoke over it, so the place was even louder.  A much more relaxing (quiet) coffee shop I know of is up the road a little ways, and used to be my haunt but they never had very friendly staff unfortunately.  These days if I want coffee, the other half and I go to the local Doughnut Connection.

      M.

    • #9759
      sa11
      Participant

      I have to say thank you to everyone in Tea Guradian. You’ve opened the world of tea to me and now I really don’t need Tazo or Teavana for tea!

    • #9760
      MEversbergII
      Participant

      I’m with sa11 here.

      Much larger world in tea than I’d ever imagined.
      M.
    • #9715
      mediebee
      Participant

      Teavana is potpourri for infusion. I think FDA should be doing something about it, or some consumer activist groups should.

    • #9698
      Leo
      Participant

      The real issue is the preference of the crowd. It is a lot harder to sell fine taste than to sell instant glories such as colourful or intensely flavoured dried plants, however low taste quality they are. In a culture where vulgarity, exaggerations and even aggressions are rewarded, and finer sentimentalities much harder to find audience, businesses entities are just going with the tides, however I do not agree with them. 

    • #9456
      LaHamsa
      Participant

      Where I live (SF East Bay Area) there are bumper-stickers that say, “Friends don’t let friends drink Starbucks.” It is (so far!) a blessing that there are no Teavana stores close to my city, but when I looked at a Google map of McVana locations I felt like they were closing in. Just to see what they had, I looked at their website-their “tea blends” were most alarming to imagine! mediebee, you’re absolutely right! Much more comforting, though, is that in this area there is a strong interest in teas well worth drinking. There are a number of importers of good- to excellent-quality teas here. Some have their own shops where they’re happy to educate & answer questions, as well as prepare teas for customers to sample and enjoy. One of my favorite importers, though they don’t have a retail shop, travels to China every spring to buy rare & artisan teas from small farms & markets. This year they have 48 green teas alone. The founder’s even built his own cave for aging puers-talk about dedicated :-)!

      For this among many other reasons, I’m happy to live where I live. May independent tea shops dedicated to quality continue to flourish!

      ~H.

    • #9447
      mediebee
      Participant

      Sadly the rest of US is not like SF. You are lucky to be there.

    • #9425
      MEversbergII
      Participant

      I’ve heard mixed things about SF.  On one hand, the citizens seem way more open to cultural things and “keeping it real”, for lack of a better phrase.  On the other hand, they can be really harsh to people who don’t seem to fit the collective paradigm.  I will have to go there one day and see what it’s like for myself.

      In any case, I’m not sure how my local Starbucks has tea’d up since the merger, as I don’t frequent the place.  There was a (brief) time, but no longer.  I think I’d rather not have one of these near by, and the closest thing I have to a “tea shop” in my neighborhood isn’t great.

      M.

    • #9392
      LaHamsa
      Participant

      mediebee, yes, I’m very fortunate to be here. I’m actually across the bay from SF, in Richmond, a small city just north of Berkeley. MEversbergll, yes, there is a fantastic embracing of cultural & artistic diversity on both sides of the Bay. I think I know the sort of harshness you’re talking about. While I’d say there’s more of it in SF, on both sides of the Bay it becomes more prevalent as the income level rises. It tends to express itself more as a political than social/cultural intolerance.

      In any case,yes, I’d encourage you to come scope out the area, especially as regards to tea :-).

      ~H.

    • #9369
      Leo
      Participant

      I miss San Francisco from time to time. I have lived there for 2 years and enjoyed very much the kaleidoscopic food culture there. I guess that is one reason you can find better tea selections there. Sometimes I wonder what is it that makes San Francisco so culturally dynamic that is not presented in most parts of the US, or for that matter, most parts of the rest of the world. What is it that makes a city embrace and celebrate differences?

    • #9360
      MEversbergII
      Participant

      I think the roots of that lie in the 1960’s, as the so-called “Hippie” culture concentrated there.  Superficial or not, they were people more prone to embracing intercultural exchange.  When the culture died, that attitude remained.

      Or, I could be wrong – I live something like 3,000 miles from the west coast, in the land of blue crab and stuffed ham.

      The modern “hipster” culture was another that was more prone to intercultural exchange, so “hipster” communities (well, former, that culture is also dying) are another place to find such things.

      M.

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