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    • #8643
      Manila Tran
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      Hello everyone,

      I recently had some sheng cha pu’er from Yi Wu Shan that is very light in leaf color and kind of orange color tea liquid. It tastes quite nice. What are your experiences with sheng cha and why do you think they are getting so expensive?
    • #10223
      Betty
      Participant

      The saleslady at a teashop in Chinatown in Toronto was very nice to let me sample a shengcha puer cake from 2011 (but I forgot which mountain). She made it very light in the first infusion, and I could not taste much. The second round was slightly stronger but I could not understand the taste. I ended up buying 100g of shu cha from her. The price was cheaper than buying from Leo because I did not have to pay shipping, but I regretted so much for the exceedingly lower taste quality. I think I have got 95g of material for compost. 🙁

    • #10228
      Manila Tran
      Participant

      I think there is a difference between a new shengcha and an old one that is not matured yet. I hope Leo will explain about that.

    • #10230
      miig
      Participant

      Hi.. my main experience with Shengcha is that the very young ones (younger than five years) are something I can’t drink very often.. maybe once a week, since they’re very strong and very cool (similar situation with japanese greens and neon-green tie guan yin for example, Leo will say its because of the TCM cold nature of them – and I believe him, I just don’t know anything about TCM and thus I’m careful about using these terms).
      If they are high-quality “boutique teas”, then the situation is better, still they are a lot more tougher than most oolongs and thats why I’m not drinking them often. They can be quite nice though and especially the Gu Shu (from old trees) teas can be worth it for me.
      If they are a bit older, like 7-10 years, there is nice stuff there and they’re not so tough on the stomach anymore either… but lots of doubts about the conditions of production there.
      Anything older is mostly out of my reach financially and thus I only had samples of these.
      And for the pricing…  I think that its mostly a speculation issue – pricing on the Pu’Er market is somewhat erratic, with great jumps and there was a big bubble some years ago.

    • #10231
      miig
      Participant

      Also, in general I’d say that most Pu’Er have a lot of power and they can be more intoxicating and imbalancing than high quality oolongs, which is why I look out to not drink them too often. Yet I love them 🙂

    • #10232
      Betty
      Participant

      Yeah! Oolong forever!

    • #10236
      ICE
      Participant

      Leo mentioned in his writings about shengcha saying that in its new form, it is TCM cold and should not be consumed by the weak stomach. I had that experience before and I can tell you that it is true. I discussed about this with a friend who is a TCM doctor and she agrees. I think it is tempting for it is light and flavorful when infused lightly. The effect can be very bad. I had serious cramps following some friends going to Mainland China for a Shengcha tasting spree. Bad idea.

    • #10237
      miig
      Participant

      Yes, I totally agree!
      They can have a very charming aroma but are tough on the stomach.
      Even though, I must say, with very old trees tea, the effect is less bad, although still present, and with very young plantation Sheng, thats almost undrinkable for me.
      Anyhow, if they’re having at least some wet-stored time, I can palate them much better if they’re about 6 or 7 years old, which is still quite young imho.
      But the 0-3 years old tees are really something I can’t drink on a daily basis.

    • #10248
      HighMountain
      Participant

      I have a few small quantities of various young sheng puerh teas and I agree with the other commenters that the very recent young sheng teas (2008-present) are tough on digestion and tend to show powerful and unbalanced astringency to my palate.

      However, just now I am drinking the 2003 Yi Wu sheng and it has such a nice balance of taste and color, moving from pale straw color with a mild flavor of smoke and earth on to a deep amber golden hue and a sweetness in the back of the throat that really pleases me.  I wish I could obtain more of this tea!
    • #10249
      Hokusai
      Participant

      In my opinion, new shengcha can be very good taste, if it is of top quality. However, there are too many bad quality selections in the shops. I think because of people need to make money. They buy cheap teas and sell higher price. I do not know much about health issue because I always drink only a little bit. I drink only oolong and bancha if I drink a lot.

    • #10251
      ICE
      Participant

      I agree with Hokusai..Some fresh shengcha taste very nice and because of that you would drink a lot of it not knowingly and get tea drunk, and like me, a long lasting stomach upset..I was told astringent ones are much lower in price.

    • #10253
      Hokusai
      Participant

      😉

    • #10256
      CHAWANG
      Participant

      good sheng cha not so bad. very good taste

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